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How valid is this swearing on the Quran, which Saiful conducted in the Federal Territory Mosque? Does such a thing exist in Islam? Apparently not, according to Dr. Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, Abdul Hadi Awang, Nik Aziz Nik Mat, Dr Haron Din, and the host of other Islamic scholars regarded as authorities on Islam by most Malays

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin 

Mahathir dares Anwar to swear

Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad has dared Pakatan Rakyat leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to swear on the Quran to prove he is innocent of the sodomy charge he faces. He said Anwar should do so just like his accuser Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan who had sworn upon the Quran that Anwar had sodomised him. “Anwar should also be doing the same thing, instead of just giving ceramah everywhere, to prove his innocence,” Dr Mahathir said.

Referring to Saiful's swearing on the Quran at the Federal Territory mosque here yesterday, Dr Mahathir said it was the former Anwar aide’s way of proving he was not lying when he alleged he had been sodomised by the PKR adviser on June 26.

Dr Mahathir said that as a figure on the Malaysian political scene, Anwar should act in accordance with public sentiment that he said, required that he give a sworn statement pertaining to the sodomy allegation. However, the action would be considered to be just a good political gesture because Anwar himself had to provide legitimate evidence to prove that he was not guilty in the matter.

Terengganu Mentri Besar Datuk Ahmad Said said Saiful did the right thing by swearing upon the Quran. “It is to demonstrate that he was telling the truth. I congratulate him for his courage,” he said.

Former PKR Youth chief Mohamed Ezam Mohd Nor said it was not easy for Saiful to do what he did. “If I were Anwar, the next thing I’ll do is to go to the mosque and prove my innocence. The legal way is not enough.”

The Muslim Consumers Association of Malaysia said in a statement that Anwar should respond to Saiful's latest move. (Bernama)

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“I’ve done this for God and I took my oath in the house of God, that I was humiliated and sodomised by Anwar Ibrahim and I do not wish to lie to the world as he has done” - statement by Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan after swearing on the Holy Qur’an at the Masjid Wilayah at Jalan Duta yesterday, as reported by Malaysiakini.

Err, Saiful, you did lie to the whole world yesterday.

Saiful was asked by a reporter to explain how the timing was so close to nomination date for the Permatang Pauh by-election.

Saiful replied: It’s all a coincidence. We don’t know that Anwar is going to contest…

Yet, on 2nd August, Malaysiakini reported that in a posting in Saiful’s blog on 1st August, ‘Saiful also briefly wished Anwar ‘good luck’ in contesting for the Permatang Pauh by-election’. (http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/sai-full-of-lies/ )

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So, finally, Saiful has sworn on the Quran that Anwar buggered him, against his will. I suppose any 61-year old man with a bad back who can force himself on a 23-year old man who is bigger and stronger than him should be strong enough to become the Prime Minister of Malaysia. This demonstrates how strong Anwar is, physically, and that he is certainly nowhere near over-the-hill. Mentally, of course, no one has any doubts that Anwar can out-think the sharpest cookies. They will literally foam at the mouth in any live debate with the incoming Member of Parliament of Permatang Pauh.

Nevertheless, how valid is this swearing on the Quran, which Saiful conducted in the Federal Territory Mosque? Does such a thing exist in Islam? Apparently not, according to Perlis Mufti Dr. Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, PAS President Abdul Hadi Awang, PAS Spiritual Leader Nik Aziz Nik Mat, PAS Deputy Spiritual Leader Dr Haron Din, and the host of other Islamic scholars regarded as authorities on Islam by most Malays. Anyway, even before Saiful pulled off his little circus stunt, and even before these scholars commented on the spectacle, I had already said that there is no such thing in Islam and is the act of deviant Muslims.

Let us reflect on what happened about 1,400 years ago when Prophet Muhammad’s wife, Aisha binti Abu Bakar, was accused of adultery with Safwan bin Al-Muattal. According to popular and accepted Islamic history, the whole incident happened as follows:

Aisha was travelling with the Prophet and some of his followers through the desert and they had stopped to camp for the night. The following morning, when she discovered she had lost her necklace, Aisha left the camp and went to search for it.

No one realised she had ‘broken ranks’ and the caravan packed up and resumed its journey. When Aisha returned to the campsite, she found that the caravan had left without her. There was nothing she could do but to sit right there and wait, in the hope they would realise they had left her behind and come back to fetch her. But they did not return for her because they did not realise they had left her behind.

Later that same day, a young and handsome Arab man named Safwan bin Al-Muattal came along and spotted Aisha sitting all alone in the desert. Though he had never met Aisha before, he immediately recognised her as one of the Prophet’s wives because of the tudung that she wore. It seems, in those days, only the Prophet’s wives wore the tudung to distinguish them from the other women.

Apparently, the tudung was ‘decreed’ for only the Prophet’s wives and not for all women. Anyway, that is another topic for another time as, today, we wish to talk about Saiful swearing on the Quran and he does not wear a tudung, yet.

Safwan rescued Aisha and took her on his horse to chase after the caravan. It was when the caravan, again, stopped to camp for the evening did they realise that Aisha was missing. But there was nothing much they could do because it was about to get dark and looking for Aisha somewhere in the desert in the middle of the night was just not viable.

It was not until the following morning that Safwan and Aisha caught up with the Prophet’s caravan. The scene of Aisha returning to the caravan with another (young and handsome) man triggered rumours that she had committed adultery with Safwan. The Prophet’s enemies immediately spread the rumour faster than a special report on Malaysia Today could ever have done.

Prophet Muhammad never doubted Aisha. Nevertheless, he called for a family conference to discuss what to do and his adopted son, Zayd, defended Aisha. Ali, his son-in-law, however, felt that a Prophet can’t afford to be the target of rumours, especially one involving his wife, and he suggested that Prophet Muhammad divorce Aisha.

Aisha steadfastly proclaimed her innocence. Muhammad felt very troubled by the whole matter and it is said he left Aisha’s house and did not return for many days. Aisha was the Prophet’s youngest and favourite wife who is also the daughter of his most faithful comrade, Abu Bakar, who went on to become the First Caliph of Islam after Prophet Muhammad died.

Aisha was devastated. Shortly after that, Prophet Muhammad announced he had received a revelation from God confirming Aisha's innocence and directing him that adultery be proven by four eyewitnesses, rather than simply inferred from opportunity (The Quran Surah 24:4). Prophet Muhammad also rebuked those who had slandered his wife (The Quran Surah 24:11) and ordered them to receive forty lashes, among them his poet Hassan bin Thabit.

So there you have it. Prophet Muhammad did not ask Aisha to swear on the Quran in the mosque that she is innocent and did not commit adultery. And neither was Safwan, who was accused of ‘penetrating’ Aisha, also asked to swear on the Quran in a mosque that he had kept his pecker in his pants at all times when he was alone with Aisha. In fact, those who made the allegation were instead punished.

We must also note one very important point. The Quran, in the book form that we know today, did not exist yet at the time of Prophet Muhammad. It was Osman, the Third Caliph, who compiled the Quran into the book form that we know today, long after the Prophet had died. That is why the Quran is sometimes referred to as the Osmania Quran. Before that, the Quran was etched on pieces of tree bark and animal skin with the bulk of it memorised by hundreds of companions of the Prophet.

If Aisha had been asked to swear her innocence on the Quran, then they would have had to recall all the pieces of tree bark and animal skin from all over the Arabian Peninsular, plus they would have had to assemble the hundreds of men who had ‘recorded’ the Quran in their heads. These tree barks and animal skin, plus the hundreds of Quran memorisers, would then have had to be lumped into a huge pile in the middle of the mosque and Aisha would have had to place her right hand on this mountain of men, tree barks and animal skin with her left hand raised to the sky as she swore her innocence on the ‘Quran’.

According to Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar, this is what constitutes “religion”:

“If you are to write on religion, then you are supposed to touch on matters pertaining to:

- questions on rituals,
- adherence to God,
- followers and
- anything related to your divine mission.”


Okay, it is interesting that this ‘Arab’ has spoken out on what constitutes ‘religion’. Most Malays believe that ‘Syeds’ are descendants of the Prophet and, therefore, would be the most qualified to talk about Islam. But is it not strange that this Arab ‘descendant of the Prophet’ does not mention that corruption, fraud, wastage of public funds, abuse of power, racism, discrimination, persecution, injustice, and many more are also abhorred by Islam? Islam simply detests all those things perpetuated by the government and upheld by Umno.

The government and Umno do all those very things that Islam is against. Islam makes it mandatory for Muslims to oppose the transgressors of God’s commands. Muslims who do not oppose it are considered very weak Muslims who are accessories to these crimes. There are no two ways about it. Muslims who keep silent are endorsing these crimes. Islam is very clear about this matter. Nothing any Arab who pretends to be a descendant of the Prophet can say will change this.

Oh, and one more thing, Saiful also swore that this swearing ceremony, one day before the Permatang Pauh Nomination Day, is a coincidence as he did not know that Anwar was going to contest the by-election. Hmm…..is Saiful prepared to also swear this on the Quran? Earlier he had wished Anwar good luck in the Permatang Pauh by-election. Talk about making a mockery of Islam. Have I not always said that the Muslims are Islam’s greatest enemy? You still want to dispute this or can I now rest my case?

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written by cwy, August 17, 2008 14:09:13
Only desperate liers ( it is under the direction of UMNO here ) resort to swearing on Kuran!
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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 17, 2008 14:09:49
Malaysia is now guilty of tarnishing Islam.
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written by alberttan, August 17, 2008 14:19:36
UMNO Mugabes corrupt everything they touch. That will include PAS.
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written by teo siew chin, August 17, 2008 14:21:00
"...In fact, those who made the allegation were instead punished..."
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now that is a WOW!
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written by sjs, August 17, 2008 14:22:00
RPK, perhaps you can highlight to non-Muslims readers like me, whats the punishment in Islam for manipulating the Quran to one's advantage. Why do Muslims not take seriously when one of their own kind manipulate the Quran. Just imagine if the manipulations of the Quran is done by a non-Muslim in different lights. The prophet's caricature is a good example of the cries of Muslims worldwide. Why are the Muslims silent on this issue. Moreso, nearly all Muslims do not believe that Anwar has sodomised Saiful, except UMNO's diminishing Malays.
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written by justice, August 17, 2008 14:22:28
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written by ahmadneil, August 17, 2008 14:22:32
After this saiful is going to put one of his middle finger into his ass and with the right hand on his cock,he swear that he's telling a lie to the nation.
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written by sjs, August 17, 2008 14:26:06
Please punish this kind of "Muslim", otherwise the Quran will be a subject of mockery in the future. The Quran will be used by everyone to prove their innocence! Whatsmore if they are guilty! I am surprised that lovers and believers of Islam are silent on this issue.
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written by HHKim, August 17, 2008 14:30:26
A simple citizen like always think that using the religious ritual to counter claims should confine to personal basis or the most to a small group of people. Case like this has gone to the court, and it should be the court to decide based on solid evidence and witnesses.

I am also puzzled how come ex-PM Mahathir also behaved like a smnall kid - asking Anwar to do the same like Saiful. Come on, this is crazy and does not befit the behavior of so called leadership in my perspectives. Leaders are expected to behave like leaders and act like leaders, not flip flopping every now and then.
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written by densemy, August 17, 2008 14:30:47
Only a muslim would invent such a story to cover for the fact that he ignored his wife for a whole day and when he finally discovered she was missing he didnt do anything about it

Blame the women... and they are still doing it today
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written by Knight, August 17, 2008 14:34:47
On why he only came forward to swear one day before the nomination for the Permatang Pauh by-election where Anwar is standing as a candidate for PKR, he said he needed time to gather his strength because the swearing was something sacred and the consequences severe.

"It has nothing to with politics. It is between Anwar and me," he said.

Asked whether this was the first time he was sodomised, Saiful said: "Yes, it was


I thought Sai-ful previously said his ass was screwed 7-8 times, in Malaysia as well as in his overseas trip with DSAI? If this was rape, surely he would have gone to the police at the first screw.

I find him making a mockery of holy places of worship by uttering the words "zakar" and "dubur" in the mosque when he did his sumpah.

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written by Dreamlander, August 17, 2008 14:34:54
Can anyone understanding Arabic translate what Saiful uttered in his SWEAR ?
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written by New Frontier, August 17, 2008 14:35:55
Mahathir cabar Anwar bersumpah. Sdra Mahathir sebagai seorang yang dikatakan berwawasan, berpandangan jauh dan bekas PM semestinya sdra seorang yang menghormati undang-undang. Malaysia ada dua sistem keadilan Sivil dan Syariah yang kedua-duanya pun belum memulakan perbicaraan kes ini tetapi tindakan mencabar Anwar semcm memenjelaskan siapakah yang berlagak sbg "Puppet Master" disamping kaedah cabar-mencabar ini umpama budak belum mumaiyiz. Benarlah kata orang apabila dah tua kita kembali kepada perlakuan kebudak-budakan (Nauzubillah). Sdra Mahathir cukuplah sandiwara anda. Waktu sdra dah lepas sekarang waktu utk rakyat betul-betul memilih utk memulih kepmbali negara yang tercinta ini dari kerosakan yang dimulai oleh sdra melalui UMNO/BN.
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written by takbolehtahan, August 17, 2008 14:42:11
RPK, you make me laugh too with your wonderful articles. And this statement: "Anyway, that is another topic for another time as, today, we wish to talk about Saiful swearing on the Quran and he does not wear a tudung, yet." shows how right you are, Sialfool can't wear the tudung cos he has no 'right of passage'.

Now I understand why all this 'sumpah' over the Quran meant nothing to these liars. There was really NOTHING to sumpah over!

And I canb't stand the sight of that Sialfool's face ... makes me want to puke!
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written by sjs, August 17, 2008 14:42:21
Praise be to Aisha. She was devastated at the rumours. But Puteri Umno is just the reverse. They try to attract attention that they are molested! We give it to them. Where do you want it and how do you want us to perform! Of course if it is anally, then you have too many, you do not need us.
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written by Abdul Haq, August 17, 2008 14:42:25
This Saiful guy probably has been told that he is doing a patriotic duty ' untuk bangsa dan negara' to stop the American stooge( guess who?!!) from making this great tanah Melayu country be dominated by USA!!

It does'nt matter that USA is already our largest trading partner and the hard reality is that our foreign policies are made with an eye on USA sensibilities!

Of Course, the UMNO ulamaks have promised that he will be sent to Makkah to seek forgiveness from God for this sin of swearing. They think that Allah an be bribed..Glory be to Him!!

In Islam it is a sin to fitnah another..like eating the flesh of your own brother. It is worse that murder!!

Even if what he swore was true..he still cannot shame someone publicly!!
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written by Malaysiaku, August 17, 2008 14:43:57
The ***** is a nobody and is only a citizen like all of us. There is no need to listen to his 'merepek'. He can suggest anything but we do not need to listen to him. Who the hell does he think he is?
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written by hope, August 17, 2008 14:45:03
Malaysia and world-wide audience know that Sai-full, his uncle Pet, his father, are puppets in this century-puppet show in Malaysia stage! Now the maha-director Mahathir jump out to ask for a Quran swear. Walao-eh, very entertaining!
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written by binarytan, August 17, 2008 14:45:14
As said many times,

this saifool will sell his mum, sisters and wife for money. So you all do not get surprise that he is swearing in front of Quran.

Typical bustard UMNO is doing everything against religion and they are the big time gangster, racist and highly corrupted people.

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written by KKchan, August 17, 2008 14:46:23
This swearing episode is just making use of religion to serve political ends. A very dangerous mix - more dangerous than C4! If only the world is so simple that by simply swearing we are proven innocent. Let's do away with our judiciary - after all we have not much faith in it. And the Bar Council - it is no longer the flavour of the month after it organised the forum on conversion. And the Police Force. No need for investigations any more. Let's institutionalise the act of swearing. So I swore I was buggered and he swore he didn't bugger me or at all. Where do we go from there? Are our leaders getting more stupid by the day or what?
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written by DanielYKL, August 17, 2008 14:46:34
I find it hard to believe that the Imans in the FT Mosque even allowed and witnessed the swearing. In other words, they endorsed the swearing on the Quran. I mean, don't they know that it's un-Islamic? I'm confused!
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written by wannabepatriotic, August 17, 2008 14:49:38
tsk tsk to the weak muslims. huzzah to the strong muslims seeking the truth!

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written by Abdul Haq, August 17, 2008 14:50:07
Oh by the way heard that Saiful got RM 10 million for this..Not bad for a dropout!! Put it in FD and he doesn't need to work another day of his life and would probably be earning more that his mates at UNITEN when they graduate this year!!

Azizan the driver only got RM 1.5 million in 1998...well factor in inflation and SPM/STPM qualifications for this boy, and you get RM10 million 10 years down the road.
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written by Right Thing, August 17, 2008 14:50:32
That part about the memorisers gathering with the animal skins and tree barks scattered all over was over the hill in hilarity! Imagine piling them atop one another for Aisha to swear on!

This time around, Mahathir still has to ask Anwar to swear and the reason is simple - to perpetuate the lie that what he had suspected and later accused Anwar of in 1998 was true, that Anwar was a sodomist. In a sense, to cover his tracks, to prolong the so-called story about Anwar's tendencies.
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written by jchew, August 17, 2008 14:50:33
Vote PR, you are kicking directly in the teeth of those corrupted elite UMNO, MCA, MIC, Gerakan etc!
Vote PR, you are giving hopes to our children and their future.
Vote PR, you will enjoy the freedom of being a true human, being able to express freely and openly and not being afraid of being arrested.

Vote BN, we are lying not only to ourself but our children. Show those pictures of DR. Koon (Gerakan), Liow (MCA), Yen- Yen(MCA)to our children that they are lying and corrupt; they stood together with the C4 gang and want us to vote for BN!
Vote BN, we are letting the lanun2 run loose and will continue to steal our wealth
Vote BN, we are endorsing their corrupted action

Do not afraid of change, especially we have more to gain.
Give PR and Anwar a go, we deserve a good government
Long live Anwar, long live Raja Petra, Long live Pas, Long live Keadilran, long live DAP! You all are the true champions of rakyat Malaysia!

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written by oknyua, August 17, 2008 14:51:02
For Christians OT provided for inLeviticus 19:12, except don't swear under lies.

NT no provisons at all. Jesus said no, no, no. Mathew 5:33-37. Heaven is God's home. Earth s God's footstool. AND I say, the Holy Word is His words. Don't murah-kan God's words. Let your yes be yes and No be No.
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written by JUST, August 17, 2008 14:53:43
If you tell the truth, you remember for life. Nothing to be afraid of!
If you lie, you have to create 1001 lies to cover ONE.
You can cheat your own conscience and lie to the whole world, GOD knows.
GOD spares no evils! The truth will prevail!
Justice will be served...... one way or another!
Evils will subject to eternity of God’s retribution!

GOD bless all!
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written by Naha, August 17, 2008 14:55:35
Don't forget that the Qur'an being reduced to a mere political tool has its precedence very early in history. I quote below from http://www.al-islam.org/ENCYCL...r5a/2.html:

Raising Quran on Spear
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In addition to the atrocities commited by Muawiyah, perhaps his act of raising the Quran on the spear against Imam Ali (AS) in the Battle of Siffin undoubtedly reflects on his character as a ruler, a person that would resort to any means to make his plan a success. He played with the book of Allah in order to deceive the naive people. As a result of this trick, al-Khawarij (those who believed Imam Ali is politheist and unbeliever) emerged in the history of Islam.

Ibn Sa'd reports a tradition from al-Zuhri that:

"At the eve of the Battle of Siffin when fight was at it's peak and people had started to loose hope, Amr Ibn al-Aas said to Muawiyah:

Accept my proposal and order the people (i.e., army of Muawiyah) to open the Quran (i.e., raise the Quran on spears) and say, O people of Iraq, we call you towards the Quran, and we decide by virtue of what is contained in it from al-Hamd to al-Naas.

This act will create dissension in the ranks and file of the Iraqis and will create hopes for the people of Shaam. Thereby Muawiyah accpeted his proposal. (to do as he said)."

Sunni references:
- Tabaqat of Ibn Sa'd, v4, p255 as per
- Khilafat Mulikiyat, Abul Ala Maududi, p345

The same fact has been mentioned in great detail by al-Tabari, Ibn Kathir,
Ibn al-Athir, and Ibn Khaldoon. The purpose behind the propsal was to
create dissension in the ranks and file of Imam Ali's (as) army, and even
if they accept the proposal (of calling towards the Quran), Muawiya's army
would manage to buy time to delay the battle.

Sunni references:
- History of al-Tabari, v4, p34
- al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah, by Ibn Katir, v7, p272
- Histoty of Ibn al-Athir, v3, p160
- History of Ibn Khaldoon, v2, p174
- Khilafat Mulukiyat, Maududi, p345

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written by DXB2008, August 17, 2008 14:58:46
Matlamat menghalalkan cara, apapun untuk survival diri dan kaum keluarga...baca tentang Pamela Anderson pun pun mahu masuk Islam...http://1426.blogspot.com/2008/...limah.html
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written by DanielYKL, August 17, 2008 15:03:50
Mahathir challenged Anwar to do the same, that is to swear on the Quran his innocence. Now this is strange. What if Anwar did swear? Does that make him innocent? Does that prove that he did not sodomise Saiful? Don't you think that Mahathir comments is making a mockery out of the swearing on the Quran? BTW, swearing on the Quran is un-Islamic That could only mean one of them is lying - and both are Muslim! This is blasphemy! And making a mockery out of the Quran. I'm confused again!
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written by rockli, August 17, 2008 15:09:00
Swearing on a holy book came from the Western tradition of swearing on the Bible.
Dunno if this is the same with Islam here, but If it is, then best to nullify this nonsensical act otherwise your religion gets mocked.
Islam is already against many Western standards, and yet to copy from them - this is sad.


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written by Food Thought, August 17, 2008 15:13:22
What a joke. This Saiful can swear inside out, upside down, left and right. Then what? smilies/angry.gif For those who read this saiful's blog before do you think he can be trusted ? After all his posting of foul words and cursing and then suddenly he become alim in front of the camera. Please lar saiful, you're nothing but a low iq dropout stupid fool. For all I care, you can swear to anything as long as money is in for you. So, Saiful swear all you want, swear with all your might, swear to anything you want but I'll spit at you, oh no, not me along but thousands of Malaysian will spit at you and worse, curse you and your family with all our might for your stupidity because you've made us rakyat looks like a fool and wasted our taxpayers' monies as well!!
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written by Richy, August 17, 2008 15:14:10
Did anyone see the qualities in Anwar as Muslim? I see that and hope the Muslims especially see that too!

A person who is god fearing and religious will never do few things under whatever circumstances.

1) He will never dare to swear on his holy books or in the name of god. Anwar never wants to swear on Koran – which means he respects and fears god and his holy religion.

2) Saiful in accusing Anwar of sodomizing him, has sworn on Koran to prove he was telling the truth. In Anwar’s case, he has refused though it matters most for him as he is in for election – willing to take a risk of losing rather than exploiting religion.

3) “Let us assume Anwar had actually sodomized Saiful” If this was a truth, we could imagine the type of Anwar we could see– a sodomite could not be respecting his religion and god so much, so he would have also by now sworn on Koran as requested to quickly come out clean at whatever cost. To him Koran could be a plain book and nothing more.

Did Anwar do that? No, not all. So it’s easy conclusion. Someone who had gone to the extent of raping another person would also be capable of lying under any circumstances more so in the case of Anwar, who has so many things, including being a PM on the stake. Yet he is not willing for one sole reason- don’t belittle god and religion for your personal interest. Therefore it is not possible for Anwar to indulge himself into this despicable act.

ANWAR IS INNOCNET AND GOD FEARING MAN.
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written by netmiser88, August 17, 2008 15:19:22
Former PKR Youth chief Mohamed Ezam Mohd Nor said it was not easy for Saiful to do what he did. “If I were Anwar, the next thing I’ll do is to go to the mosque and prove my innocence. The legal way is not enough.”

What is this idiot trying to say? The LEGAL WAY is NOT GOOD ENOUGH????

When UMNO can pokeup the legal system what is this swearing on the Koran that is so HARD TO LIE???

Ask Sifool!....He did bootifoolyyy!
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written by wongnoball, August 17, 2008 15:25:40
Alamak, the mentality of the Great ***** is also the same as Saful ...........
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written by PASOK, August 17, 2008 15:27:48

The truly contemptuous ones are the government people who are making use of this young man.
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written by Rashid, August 17, 2008 15:33:26
Well, the Qu'ran makes it clear that the more someone is inclined to swear and urge others to swear, he is a habitual liar. You don't need to be born to know Mahathir (Chancellor of the School of Sodomy, double faced sname Ee-zam and the base born Sinful) are habitual liars and inborn hypocrites. That's why the Quran warns against people who always "swear" because it is a characteristic of the hypocrites.

Don't listen to the type of despicable men,- ready with oaths

Defamer, going about with slander

(Habitually) hindering (all) good, transgressing beyond bounds, deep in sin,

Ignoble, besides all that, base-born." (Quran Karim 68: 10-13)



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written by kl_wong, August 17, 2008 15:36:02
All the Parliment who is MUSLIM should then hold the Holy Quran and swear they are not CORRUPT. I dare you all....but then nothing will happen for now is heaven to them with money and power in hands.But I wish there is after life, then those corrupted goverment servants, May You Rot in Hell.
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written by krepot, August 17, 2008 15:47:48
Well, this idiot just set a really stupid precedent!

1. Does this swearing mean the accuser is INNOCENT?
2. Does this swearing mean the accused is GUILTY?

Left unchecked, this could be very dangerous in the administration of justice.

The courts should make it VERY CLEAR,
swearing does NOT
makes the accuser or the accused any more INNOCENT!

The court of law and the justice system will finally decide.
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written by kislean, August 17, 2008 15:48:39
To all the bad muslims, I have this to say, do not push your luck with your creator, your God. Like I used to say, it's not so simple as you think when you decide and plan to do some evil(s) and plan to repent later, your sin(s) are forgiven. A religious man would not even think of doing evil let alone carrying it out. Just you wait, sooner or later, your punishment will come. Many had died or are suffering from terminal cancer or some sort of illnesses with no cure. Be afraid. Be very afraid !
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written by non conformist, August 17, 2008 16:01:32
Jesus said:
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
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What has this stupid and meaningless religious ritual of swearing to do with telling the truth?

"But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."

Saiful is so obviously a fool and a scumbag ful of lies.
And he even dare to sware by the holy book of his god,
Thus NOT ONLY taking the name of his god in vain,
BUT ALSO bearing false witness against another Muslim!

Horror of horror... Saiful has committed such abominable evil.
May his god deal justly with such a devious and perverse man.

The God of heaven declared:

"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."

sing, penang
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written by Loonie, August 17, 2008 16:04:20
How about Mahathir too swears on the Koran to say he had never, never raped the country's resources and cheated on the poor rakyat for 22 years?
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written by uzumaki naruto, August 17, 2008 16:07:29
sigh...i think malaysia-today is getting stale by every other day. i used to like this site but hmmm i guess its becoming a political mouthpiece for certain quarter with vested interest.

well RPK, most politician are crooks. let them fight each other off. may the best crook wins. however, it would be safer and better for Malaysia to be run by "straight" crook.

i think Malaysia Insider is better.

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written by Loonie, August 17, 2008 16:07:32
Oh, how about getting najib to swear on the holy book that he had never, never, never ,never met Atlantuya? rosmah could have sworn on the Koran that she wasn't involved in the murder of Atlantuya too. How about bodowi swearing on the holy book about not having seen the military report huh?
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written by gorshan, August 17, 2008 16:25:13
oh yes Aishah' story is just like Sita's story.10 months in Ravan's captivity and she was given the test of fire to prove her chastity.

in both case women conveniently given the blame. their word or denial is not enough. its a men world afterall. smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/angry.gif
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written by gorshan, August 17, 2008 16:30:22
on the subject of swearing on the holy book, lets get every civil servants to periodicallly swears on the holy book they have not enjoyed the proceed of any corruptions. it will be a busy years ahead for all the clergymen smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/angry.gif
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written by vineeth menon, August 17, 2008 16:31:30
uzumaki naruto,
Then, why are you here .. Logout and get Out !!! Can i tell you some thing.. Its human nature that one want, others to say, what he/she like to hear. Unfortunately, its the more of a personal problem. cheers..
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written by chaimah, August 17, 2008 16:37:18
Has anyone ever heard of anyone ever swearing on the Quran or the Bible that they are guilty of anything.Does it also mean that anyone who swears on the quran or the Bible means that they are innocent? Legal issues should be settled in a court of law, if swearing on the Quran or the bible is so definitive then why the need to have any judiciary system.I can't for the life of me understand how intelligent people can suggest that swearing on the Quran will refelect that you are not guilty. If life was so simple why don't we just get every politician, judge, police personnel, lawyers, doctors and everyone who works for the government to swear either on the quran or bible or any religious book of their own faith that they have never committed any wrong doing in the course of their duty. Wow we would all be such model citizens and the world would be such a wonderful place.Let's get real, swearing on the quran or the Bible does not prove innocence or guilt, it may prove that if one is guilty that one has no respect for the Quaran or the Bible. Such people will sell their mother to make a buck and it does not cost them anything to swear.
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written by chiongguo, August 17, 2008 16:42:47
how valid is this swearing on the Quran, which Saiful conducted in the Federal Territory Mosque? Does such a thing exist in Islam?



RPK it doesn't matter if it is in there or not. The people manipulating and orchestrating all these are only interested in "inventing" events and then spreading it out like wild fire. Very few will ask if it is islamic. Many will just accept it and the doubt is planted and this seed of doubt will sprout into many forms when the condition is right.

How do you challenge such campaign with multi-headed hydra ? Education is important but again very few has the time or even the will to find out. Razaleigh's downfall also came about by such dirty tricks when he was shown to be wearing a kandazan headgear containing a cross which had nothing to do with christianity.



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written by kupas, August 17, 2008 16:46:44
by willing to swear by the Quran does not make one innocent. Any rational mind would not accept such action as proof of one's innocence.
Does not matter who does it. Saiful swearing in Masjid Wilayah with his father by his side does not make him innocent of sodomy nor does it make Anwar guilty of sodomny for refusing to do likewise.
Saiful must be the greatest of old fool to even think that we will buy his swearing as proof of his innocence.His action further impressed upon us - he is guilty as hell for conspiracy with BN.
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written by smokingsoldier, August 17, 2008 16:53:00
RPK... what these UMNO bastards are doing; is not under the name of ISLAM. they have a new religion headed by bodohwi, which is ISLAM HADHARI. it seems that this new religion allows swearing upon the Quran.
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written by azmibalong, August 17, 2008 17:04:59
saksi bahawa tiada Tuhan yang aku sembah melainkan Allah, dan aku naik saksi bahawa Muhammad adalah rasul Allah'.the arabic version of this swearing also consist of 24 words. 24 or 2 and 4 , is also a sacred no in the study of advance islamic teaching knwon as Tasawuf. in other word it means that the actual quran for every single muslim in this world is the person himself , and you carried it around every day , what ever you do either good or bad, the quran in you is witnessing every moment of you. The written one is just a plain book that consist all God' own instruction to the prophet, the law, the do's and the dont's, and the history of islam, nothing more. So to all muslim, stop making fool of your self by doing what Saifool has done! Jangan jadi Bodoh macam Unta dan keldai.
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written by shamadz72, August 17, 2008 17:10:52
I find it hard to believe that the Imans in the FT Mosque even allowed and witnessed the swearing. In other words, they endorsed the swearing on the Quran. I mean, don't they know that it's un-Islamic? I'm confused!

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It is a common knowledge among Muslim Malaysia here that there are 2 types of mosque exist in Malaysia. The 1st one is the mosque built by the government and control by the government. The 2nd one is the mosque built mostly by people's donation money. The one built with the government money normally looks grand and expensive but deserted most of the time except for friday's prayer. The one built with donation's money will be quite lively and have more congregation most of the times and not just confine to Friday's prayer. You can even see people praying on the tarmac or outside of the mosque due to not enough capacity to cover the congregation for this type of mosque. This type of mosque normally doesn't look that grand compared to the 1st type of mosque. Another distinctive features is that the imams managing the 1st type of mosque normally looks young (just like recently graduated scholar) and tends to give Friday's sermon by reading the text book unlike the imam for the 2nd type of mosque.
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written by budakindia, August 17, 2008 17:21:08
What's with UMNO? Buttocks and swearing. Is it a kind of favorite sport in UMNO? smilies/wink.gif
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written by azmibalong, August 17, 2008 17:45:51
Apologised for the mistyping on my earlier comments, here is the full version:

Let me explain a bit on the Quran for those who really wanted to know more. The quran we seen , read and used today are also known as 'Quran Tersurat'or 'the printed book of divinity'. What all of muslim did not know and aware the other quran also known as 'Quran Tersirat' or 'the hidden inner book of divinity', The quran tersurat has been around for more than thousand of years, from the day where the camel and the donkey used to carry it around behind their back, up until today where we have witness how Saifool has misused it to take the swearing using the Quran. What saifool has done, and to the people whore dare and challenge DSAI to counter swear are people who are actually make fool of them self.The real quran for every muslim is lies inside every person who profess islam. Let me elaborate. The quran consist of 6666 words. Therefore 6 x 4 = 24. Fine,Every muslim are required to take oath in their daily prayer:- 'Aku naik saksi bahawa tiada Tuhan yang aku sembah melainkan Allah, dan aku naik saksi bahawa Muhammad adalah rasul Allah'.the arabic version of this swearing also consist of 24 words. so its 24,what does 24 got to to do with the Quran? 24 or 2 and 4 , is also a sacred no in the study of advance islamic teaching knwon as Tasawuf. Every single words and phrases in the quran consist with either 2, 4 , 5, 6, and 7, this are all numbers that indirectly relates and binds all diverse and advance teachings in Tasawuf.In a simple word it means that the actual quran for every single muslim in this world is the person himself , and they carried it around every moment and day, what ever they do either good, bad, or worst, the quran in you is witnessing every moment of what you do. The written one is just a plain book that consist all God' own instruction to the prophet, the law, the do's and the dont's, and the history of islam, etc, nothing more. So to all muslim, stop making fool of your self by doing what Saifool has done! "Jangan jadi Bodoh macam Unta dan keldai. tahu bawak kitab ke hulu ke hilir, tak tahu apa yang di bawa"
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written by ahmadneil, August 17, 2008 17:49:46
I don't think the book on his hand is a Koran.It's the 'Malay Dilemma'.
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written by AsamLaksa, August 17, 2008 17:51:45
So the answer 42 is possibly very valid! smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif
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written by teohpg, August 17, 2008 17:53:48
the one that foamed in the mouth already not surfacing for talks anymore....he actually said he wanted to resign if he fails...apparently he still think the salary he got is good for stay.
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written by ASK4u, August 17, 2008 17:58:40
Please laa UMNO, I beg you to leave religion out of your politics.Don't drag religion into your dirty foils.You tried everything already from race (UiTM 10% intake)and now even the holy book is not spared.DSAI is a true Muslim and he has a lot of respect for the Holy Quran. That is the reason why he is refraining from following Saifools step.I hope every Muslim's understand DSAI predicament and not to take DSAI hesitation to swear on the Quran as being guilty of the charges.Obviously, Tun Dr and some other Muslim who are instigating DSAI to swear on the Quran are bereft of SQ(Spiritual Quotient) let alone IQ and EQ. smilies/angry.gif smilies/sad.gif
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written by magickriver, August 17, 2008 18:09:06
Brilliant and inspired response to Mahathir's *****ish mutterings, Pete! My good wishes and kind thoughts are constantly with you and Marina.
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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, August 17, 2008 18:14:48
TDM = makin tua makin bodoh = batu api = tunggu mati
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written by Kathy, August 17, 2008 18:20:38
Hmm, is this Saiful a robot? Poor lad, not in the monetary sense though, but how does he look at himself in the mirror every morning? Someone should check his bank accounts.
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written by ROBERTNGTG, August 17, 2008 18:30:55
Yet, on 2nd August, Malaysiakini reported that in a posting in Saiful’s blog on 1st August, ‘Saiful also briefly wished Anwar ‘good luck’ in contesting for the Permatang Pauh by-election’.

SO YOU SHOWED WHAT A LOUSY LIAR AND ACCUSER YOU ARE. REALLY FULL OF SHIT.
DSAI, IF IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF GETTING THE MALAY VOTES THAT U HV TO SWEAR, THEN JUST DO IT AND BE DONE. SO WHAT IF U ALSO SWEAR THAT U ARE INNOCENT?? THEN SHITFUL WILL BE CHARGED FOR FALSE ACCUSATION??? *****, YOU SHOULD BE SAYING NICE WORDS TO DSAI. MUSHARAFF IS NOT GETTING ANY AMNESTY, AND I DOUBT YOU WILL ALSO GET ANY.
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written by onnetline, August 17, 2008 18:50:38
What's so great about getting paid to swear ?????

Please enlighten me !
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written by miwaki, August 17, 2008 19:02:10
Now I know how much UMNO people understand Islam,please go back to school and start all over again.You people have tarnish the image of Islam and muslims,prepare to be punished in your next lives.Quickly repent and be righteous,you have very little time left.
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written by cheemengwong, August 17, 2008 19:04:31
The Holy Book...

Let's see. If prohet mohammed was born in 570 AD and the Koran was written some 200 years later. That makes is like 770 AD.

So the Koran is about 1238 years old.

I asked my Engineer to go and book a crane for my project last week and asked him to record it in his notebook. He dutifully does it and this morning at the project site, there was no crane! ****!

I enquired him and he said forget!. I asked him again how many times he prays and he said 5 times. I again asked him if he has ever forgotten to pray and he say no.

A good Muslim is what a Good Muslim does. Be faithful in the small things with man and the big picture will be right! God is for everyone, each man for himself.

Let me tell you the truth...

You and me can't even remember what we eat 2 weeks ago on Friday. How can we trust some joker who write down something? Come onlah! Be pratical.

Don't listen to the joker Saiful. He is full of shit!
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written by cheemengwong, August 17, 2008 19:15:26
So how is the Old Testament being written? Any Bullshit in it?

Read more..

http://www.aish.com/literacy/concepts/Writing_the_Torah.asp

http://www.clarion-call.org/yeshua/torah.htm

The holy bible is the book most courts in America use to swear on...

You mean the Muslims also do the same with the Koran?

Can I conclude that they are the same same?

Phak Lah
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written by bexe, August 17, 2008 19:24:58
What is troubling me in all this is why the officials of that mosque allowed this "ritual" to take place in the fashion that is alien to Islam?
Are they now pawns in this political game too? Have they given Allah's blessings to crooks and lairs and are they as corrupt?
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written by Changes, August 17, 2008 19:44:29
Is it ok with RPK and PR that we abolish the courts and just use the quran. OR SHALL WE JUST USE THE BIBLE. Anyway
for you stupid ****ing jokers just spend some time reading the quran and BIBLE and you will see that they say the same things BUT the quran is still with the old testement and the BIBLE is New Testement and thats why you people are ****ING LOST.
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written by rams609, August 17, 2008 19:47:57
STOP all discussions on this issue.

Quick, ask our ONE AND ONLY IMAM.
IMAN HADHARI...

Only an Imam Hadhari can give you the light, show you the way.....

Gotta pisspot anyone?

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written by Taikohtai, August 17, 2008 19:52:42
***** TDM's sandiwara at the Lingamgate RC showed to the whole world what a warped mind is capable of. He was most unhappy with Sodomy II when he became aware of it but looks like he has now joined the party! Looks like ***** TDM is running out of ideas too or should I say, told one lie too many!
He is now facing a huge dilemma, just by looking at the turnout of the hoi polloi at Anwar's nomination day in PP.
By resorting to swearing on the Koran and whatever dirty tricks, he hopes to delay the inevitable. ***** TDM, the Titanic could only go one way and that was down. Your future seems headed in the same direction too and as you are already over 80 years old, PLEASE MAKE PEACE WITH YOUR MAKER, if not DSAI.
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written by The dragonheart, August 17, 2008 20:06:42
written by cheemengwong, August 17, 2008 | 19:04:31

Let me tell you the truth...

You and me can't even remember what we eat 2 weeks ago on Friday. How can we trust some joker who write down something? Come onlah! Be pratical.


cheemengwong, what are you trying to say/prove?
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written by cheemengwong, August 17, 2008 20:23:52
Don't read between the lines ok? There is nothing in it!

What I am trying to say is that time distorts messages, stories, lies, truth, facts and fiction alike.

Don't be dogmatic in our thinking. Can we let God almighty guide us daily without having to resort to any kind of hand me down bullshit for all religion.

All religion hands down some form of bullshit and many just swallow it hook and sinker.

Prak Lah
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written by bunian, August 17, 2008 20:24:30
Dreamlander,

I really don't know what Sayfool said but when I swear, I say, "%$^&*$#@)%#*&)(!!!" He might have said the same thing, too, but I swear I didn't turn my back on him.
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written by cheemengwong, August 17, 2008 20:29:28
Some religious nut refrains from eating meat and group of followers grew and become a cult and religion.

Some religious fark eat while crossing his legs and soon a cult of followers follows suit.

Some religious fark read the religious book upside down and soon a group of followers emerges and follows suit.

Some religious idiot prints money and burnt it, soon a group follows. Some even built condominiums and burnt it as offerings.

Some religios group use the bible to swear in court and soon some other idiots follows.

Some religious fart cuts a white chicken and swears on his mothers name and soon a group of morons follows.

Some religious quirk shaved bald and punch holes on their head and soon a group of Siau Lin follows.

Some religious leader marries and keep on marrying virgins and soon a group emerge to follow..

Park Lah
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written by bakas, August 17, 2008 20:30:07
So now everyone can see that it is not the religion that teaches you how to do bad things, but the so-called followers themselves. Hey, if the devil can tempt anyone to sin, I bet he also can tempt anyone to desecrate the Quran.

Now everyone can see how men were the uilty ones in manipulating religion to satisfy their greeds and lust.

By the way, maybe these 'model' Muslims who swore on the Quran think that since Ramadhan is around the corner, they can 'taubat' and wash away all the lies. This makes it a mockery of the real meaning of the fasting month and for those who really aspire for good to overcome evil.

Shame on you 'model' Muslims. May Allah have mercy on your souls.

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written by peter, August 17, 2008 20:33:25
When one lies all the time, one won't know when one's wagging tongue will lie again. "It’s all a coincidence. We don’t know that Anwar is going to contest.." my foot. You're a true blue liar Penoh-Sai. You lie more than your "kurap-ted" ******* can shit.
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written by Mirage, August 17, 2008 20:47:37
What if Anwar swears? Then what? We are back to the legality and the prove. I think the whole reason behind this is because the Doctor's report could not be use. But if Anwar does not swear, the rule of law and court preceeding will still have to be enforce as it does not take that into consideration. ......NO DIFFERENCE.
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written by Richy, August 17, 2008 20:58:32
RPK, I know you don't have any trust in our police. However I think it is a must you should make a police report against lawyer Shafee for insulting your birth and your parent. By doing so he has also disrespected your father who was the prince of Selangor sultanate. He has also disrespected your dad for marrying your mom.
Sorry I had to say this. Apology if it had offended you.
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written by dassky2000, August 17, 2008 21:33:04
This bastars saiful iis lieing thru his teeth lah. Mana untie pat tidak nampak pun d masjid?
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written by patriotic1994, August 17, 2008 21:43:06
Saiful does not fear God. He is now using God to support him.

Imagine you have a fight with your brother, and your father already dead and with a picture hanged on the wall. Do you now grab your father's picture and try to argue with your brother that you are right? What kind of son is that?

So I say Saiful does not fear God, and the consequence will be severe.
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written by Daryl, August 17, 2008 21:43:40
Sinful
I wonder where is your Uncle Pet now after that interview.... No credibility after that.... what a bunch of joker.
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written by TWOG, August 17, 2008 21:50:07
Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad has dared Pakatan Rakyat leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to swear on the Quran to prove he is innocent of the sodomy charge he faces.

If only life is so simple. Just swear on the Quran, or any holy book to prove one's "truth" or otherwise. If this is true, then we won't need all the expensive courts, Palace of Justice, judges and so many liars lawyers.

Also, if someone is so unafraid of God as to commit murder, what's there to prevent him from swearing on the Quran. You think the guy(s) who used C4 on a poor Mongolian girl will be afraid to swear on the Quran?

If politicians and ex-politicians can lied through their teeth and are as forked tongue as they come, do you think they will hesitate for one second to swea