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My Comments On Article "Singapore is more like Zimbabwe than Malaysia ever is under the PAP"


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Why should I feel repressed and have a need to speak up when my very basic needs in life are already taken care of?

By JustNosey

First and foremost, let me say I have been reading from this site and it has always been a very interesting forum on information about Malaysia. I am not a member of MT and as a Singaporean, I just did not think it was necessary to be one since this is another country's home affairs. I am interested in the Malaysian political scene simply because

1) I have a big extended family/friends in KL that I visit very frequently
2) I like to read how some politicians in Malaysia love to use Singapore as a diversion on what they are doing and comparing the 2 countries often in a negative light or have petty fights over who owns Bak Kut Teh (or should I now say Halal Bak Kut Teh?).

There is never a shortage of circus fun without actually attending the circus.

On the article "Singapore is more like Zimbabwe than Malaysia ever is under the PAP", I felt there was a need to really comment on this as I felt in many ways, the article is not echoing the true thoughts of the citizens of Singapore or at least myself and my circle of friends. I have nothing against having oppositions in my country and in fact welcome them but that is provided that they make constructive comments and suggestions instead of behaving like some monkeys on CNN and proclaiming that his words are that of Singaporeans. If this particular monkey ever had the guts to poll his popularity, he would probably end up with 99% for and 1% against. 99% for burying him. Why would I not vote for them? They bring monkeys who are not educated, who speak senselessly into the scene. Can I trust such people with my family and country's future? You decide.

The claim of repression of the political scene may be true but times are changing and we can feel that. The style of working between the 2 Lees are changing and we know under the leadership of the junior, freedom of speech is slowly but certainly being opened up. Times are changing and I am sure that the Lees know that if they continue to work under the style 40 years ago, they will face a political tsunami .... not now but in time to come. But the fact remains that Singaporeans, whether they are shaped to be or they simple cannot be bothered to speak up is also true and there are reasons for it.

If we look at the many surrounding countries, just do not look far. How many countries

1) is a clean country?
2) has almost clean government officials and civil servants?
3) has education, public transportation, health care and public housing given to citizens?
4) has rebates and job security during an economic crisis?
5) has a community that you can feel safe to walk the streets at 3am without being mugged? (If you got mugged, you are really down on luck!)

As a parent myself, what do I see as most important for my family?

1) I have a job that keeps my family stable and well fed
2) I give a roof over my family and they need not worry about being on a wait list to see a doctor
3) My children can go to government schools and be assured they are educated well
4) Safety of my family is not a concern because the streets are safe

The above is what PAP has recognised as the way they have to take care of the citizens and has provided for us. What is there for me to say or complain? Why should I feel repressed and have a need to speak up when my very basic needs in life are already taken care of? So unless you are a citizen of this country, let's not talk about repression from a certain family or party because in the first place, there is probably nothing much we want to shout to the world about how crappy our government is. At least there is no lost jet engines or JPJ pulling my car in for not paying Singapore road tax (which I did) and our leaders (we do not have sultans) are not going to another country, staying in a royal hospital room with 2 women pushed into his room for 2 hours and having the Sultan's wife making a police report and making a mockery of the royal family ABROAD!

Last but not least, in some comments on Singaporeans leaving the country for Aussieland, Singaporeans are not leaving solely because they have to be in national service. We used up 2.5 years of our youth in the army and we hated it. But as we grew, we realised its importance too and how it has actually matured the men in Singapore. People leave for many other reasons like opportunities etc so please stop thinking its always national service. With so many people without brains on TOP and wanting to bomb everyone in this region, how can we not have national service? I will be the first to report back to camp in times of war. It is always safer to have guns in wars and be well fed.

These are my personal thoughts. I know my circle of friends share it because we talk about it. But I certainly ain't speaking for ALL Singaporeans like some clowns on CNN.

TA


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written by Siputman, December 29, 2009 14:42:00
Hey Singaporeans, you are all kiasu, kiasi, kiasai, kiasan, kia..........Yes, your 2 Lees might not be liken by some or perhaps most of your fellow citizens but most of you all still voted for them. Why??? Because your government had provided & will always provide you all with the best. Not like here, our government had & will always provide the best for themselves only.

So, forget about the opposition in Singapore. They will never win because generally, your government is still damn good. But in Malaysia, we, the opposition still have hope because Barisan sucks !!! Sucks like hell !!! @#$%^&*
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written by popuri, December 28, 2009 08:50:41
There is never a shortage of circus fun without actually attending the circus.


Hell, yeah. smilies/grin.gif
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written by Taikohtai, December 27, 2009 05:47:20
Isn't Singapore the Capital of Malaysia?
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written by Tompios, December 27, 2009 03:49:14
Dear Rohani Hitam,
You are right! I need to admit that Singapore's system service is far better than Malaysia. More sophisticated in many areas. Yes, these make most Singaporeans are very proud of themselves. But anyway, if we talk about politic than Singapore cannot be compared with Malaysia in term of freedom to express ones idea. Against the government in Singapore you will get multi-no ending sues from LKY. And, some people in Singapore live without light during night time because cannot pay electricity bills. Singapore is very excellent to cover up all cancers in their household.
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written by truthbespoken, December 26, 2009 22:26:08
Come, come, fellow Malaysians, what is there to compare between Malaysia and Singapore? Other than the mixed racial fabric, the two countries are no longer the same or about the same anymore, in all fields. What we can safely say now is that both were about the same level 45 years ago.

Live with the truth, fellow Malaysians, whether one likes it or not, one must acknowledge that Singapore, Singapore Dollars and almost everything Singapore in tangible terms had moved far ahead of Malaysia since then. The only areas Malaysia had moved way ahead of Singapore are in corruption indexes, racial disharmony and religious disquiet.

It’s a shame to even think about the situation sometimes, let alone for some who still have the cheek to compare here and there with them as though there are still plenty of good reasons for comparision. Don’t lah.

Let’s save our energy and go back to hammering UMNO and its supreme leader who are the main cause of Malaysia’s current woes and weakening national standing. That way, when UMNO and its supreme leader are kicked out, maybe Malaysia will still have the hope to play catch-up with Singapore within the next few decades. It’s sad but true, isn’t it?
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written by Horizonline, December 26, 2009 21:02:28
Dear Jokersland,

Ha ha, I can't help it but to agree with you on this. At least LKY admitted that they succeed with the help of other people regardless of race and religion, not like our leaders who remain ignorant about this issue.

But this does prove 1 point, that Singapore is not as independent as we think it is. They are excellent in term of economic and social, but in term of politics... bad?

Singapore is really clean, way better than my beloved country Malaysia, though I do hate to admit it.

Heh, but at least we Malaysians doesn't kia si, kia su and kia cheng hu. If we ever bo song (dissatisfied) with our leader, at least we take it to the street like a man.

I don't hate Singapore, but I love Malaysia really much. (But Malaysian government didn't love me...smilies/sad.gif)
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written by Vengai, December 26, 2009 20:41:44
Just Nosey,
I agree with you about your explanation related to Singapore and PAP.I have an uncle back in Singapore whos is a Singapore navy Captain.He say the exact things like you. He was a Malaysian but offered job in Singapore back in 1970.Now he is a singapore Citizen.As a man who has his famaly in Malaysia, he knows well about this country and Singapore.He said Singapore is much more better than Malaysia .

What ever comments given by those who have negative thought about PAP, i still respect the singapore Goverment rule under PAP.
Its a shame when all the bussiness agreement involving Malaysia and Singapore or Malaysia and other countries done according to Singapore law.And any case related to these agreement should be heard in Singapore court. Its shows how clean is Malaysian Goverment and the Judiciary and how much trust the international community put on This F**king UBN goverment of Malaysai.
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written by onnetline, December 26, 2009 18:28:37
Our fcuklking BN retards or NEP assisted moronic leaders are incompetent and have no proper standing to compare with PAP leaders in Singapore.

Plainly, Malaysians simply need to change these current pariah BN leaders ......... comes any election !
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written by Rohani Hitam, December 26, 2009 17:58:17
Dear peace, Bandit and Vic,

Thanks for keeping me glued to MT. As I said in my previous posting that I am not making comparison between Singapore and Malaysia or Zimbabwe for that matter. I was only responding to JustNosey statement on living in Singapore which I disagree on certain facts. And I am no fan of the BN government of Malaysia either nor a supporter of their policies. I have made numerous comments of my own Malaysia's malpractices including NEP, widespread corruption and failing education. So don't speak about the comparison between the two as I have qualified myself from the beginning.
What I am pleased is that peace and Bandit has agreed that racial discrimination does occur in Singapore. Correct me if i am wrong. Vic has invited me to form a political party in singapore. This is a repeat of many Singaporean politicians who cannot take criticism.

And to peace, please get you maths revisited as I can get a plate of mee goreng in Malaysia for RM3.00 but S$3.00 from a Singapore hawker centre. Our char quay teow is priced the same as our mee goreng but you pay the same S$ in Singapore. Our cup of tea/coffee is RM 1.00 and yours is S$0.80 to S$1.00. Perhaps you may wish to know that the xchange rate is 1:2.5 unless you prefer to remain ignorant of that.
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written by jokersland, December 26, 2009 17:46:01
Horizoneline,

Definately Singapore need the best brains to run their economy because they don't have any natural resources like Malaysia, If I'm not mistaken, in an interview live last year in TV, LKY frankly said that if Singapore had to depend on their countrymen alone it won't be what it today. They have to source the best brains around the world regardless of what religions or races you came from. Not like Malaysia, chasing away all the best brains just to fill the quota and come out with a lot of half bake brains.
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written by peace, December 26, 2009 17:01:40
Rohani Hitam,

If you want to talk about the cost of living in Singapore compared to Malaysia and I can tell you the cost of living in Malaysia are superb HIGH if compared to Singapore due to HIGH INFLATION in Malaysia. I hope you study economic and maths before you accuse of Singapore higher cost of living than Malay-SiaL.

How much income per-capital for Malaysian compared to Singaporean?
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written by peace, December 26, 2009 16:57:25
Malaysia has the LEGALISED DISCRIMINATION policy to their Rakyat by using the quota system to DIVIDE and RULE the multi-racial Malaysian.

No wonder all the SPM FAILED OUT (monkey) also can holding high post in our gomen agency, sigh.
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written by Bandit, December 26, 2009 16:33:07
Rohani Hitam.

"Your government also practise undeclared discrimination of the certain minority race in particular fields. "
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Obviously we know what race you are talking about. How about Malaysia? Doesnt Malaysia openly practice an organised form of aparthied? The same race you talk about has brought about our monetary value so much smaller then a country the size of a peanut yet we have abundance gift from mother nature. UMNO has raped this country and deprived its rightful citizens of their fair share for 60 years. You are in the same boat of cry babies who are just too used to handouts from the government. Ask your "ethnic race" in Singapore. They are more matured and are survivors compared to you spoonfed lot in malaysia.
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written by Vic, December 26, 2009 16:13:14
Rohani Hitam
why dont you set up a political party and champion for all the injustics you mentioned within. Dont hid behind MT and lobbed all the accusations. If you are a man, which you are if you have used your full and truthful name then I supposed you should have the balls to stand up for what you said within. Dont use MT as your mama's panty.
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written by mowadoha, December 26, 2009 15:55:06
I agree 100% with JustNosey. Me too, as a parent myself, what do I see as most important for my family?

1) I have a job that keeps my family stable and well fed
2) I give a roof over my family and they need not worry about being on a wait list to see a doctor
3) My children can go to government schools and be assured they are educated well
4) Safety of my family is not a concern because the streets are safe

If my government could also recognise the importance of the above factors -- to take care of the citizens and provide that sort of needs to us .... then what is there for me to say or complain? Why should I feel repressed and have a need to speak up when my very basic needs in life are already taken care of? Also, there is no need for people like me to vote for the opposition if the above basic needs are well taken care of by my government. Period.
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written by Rohani Hitam, December 26, 2009 15:05:47
JustNosey,

You are just like many Singaporeans I have met. Speak for yourself. PAP has brainwashed you all to be self-centered, perochial in outlook and selfish. I am not comparing between Singapore and Malaysia or Zimbabwe for that matter, I am commenting on what you have said. My frequent visits to Singapore reveal otherwise. You failed to look into the miseries and sufferings of the minorities, the marginalised and the deprived Singaporeans. And what press freedom you have compared with the 60's and 70's? - you are even worst off than before.

In Singapore there are jobless lots and the deprived. These minorities have to beg and queue to see their MPs for help. Sometimes it is better to see the voluntary organisations run by religious and social welfare groups where there help are readily extended. Some homeless parents remain homeless despite the "housing provided by government" for everyone. Many youngsters especially the poor cannot afford to buy the HDB apartments because they cannot afford and have to live in cramp environment sharing with parents and siblings.

Free education? you must be a nut. Many poor Singaporeans have to beg and borrow to keep with the fees and those aspire to go for further studies must prove that they are true paupers (like each member of household must earn less than $800 per month before help can be extended). Imagine your cost of living.

Your government also practise undeclared discrimination of the certain minority race in particular fields.

There is no such thing as freedom of speech like you have suggested. Not even an improvement since the 70's. Many Singaporeans I spoke to said that their letters have never been published if their comments may hurt the government. Your papers are controlled by your government and they are source of propaganda like you.
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written by EYFF, December 26, 2009 14:55:16
Well Singapore after the separation move from zero (well only $0.5million in the Govt coffer!) to USD1 Trillion!

Malaysia from USD7-14 trillions (only consider Petronas oils sales???) to zero , very soon!

Only thought that David Copperfield could do such a massive disappearing act. Well in Malaysia we have TDM and UMNO.

TDM = Top Disappearance of Money!
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written by Vertigo Cure, December 26, 2009 14:44:11
Some people are just too jealous about the achievements of Singapore. These are the people who says Singapore gomen is corrupted, water at 3 sen is unfair, etc but know nuts about the real facts.

Some even say Malaysians fight more strenuously for democracy than Singaporeans. Democracy means majority rules. Aren't Umno/BN chosen by the majority? Blame the stupid people who voted for them.

Think again. Malaysians are not fighting for democracy. Malaysians are fighting against corruption and racism, fair judiciary, rights to religious freedom, gomen accountability, etc. Aren't these the cases of TBH, PKFZ, VK Lingam, Altantuya, cowhead, missing jet engines, etc, etc all about? Or is it about democracy?

If all these are what Malaysians fight for and are not happening in Singapore, what is that that Singaporeans need to fight for?
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written by Horizonline, December 26, 2009 14:38:17
Singapore government loves outsiders more than their own people... more than 30% of Singapore population consisted of foreigner... what can you say about this? It is just matter of time before they were devoured by their own so called 'talents'... That's why I say 'guai lou' are smart.
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written by Nixcloud, December 26, 2009 14:35:47
i do not and never will believe there is a leader of a country that is clean and uncorrupted - in UK, they have Tony and Cherie Blair, in US they have Bush & Clinton etc. that use their time in service to establish connection for their own benefits.
BUT, i draw the line at RM100 billion of taxpayers' money - this is what BN and cronies called legalised daylight robbery....
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written by patycy, December 26, 2009 14:32:11
Well, this video speaks for itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqhr4wxUFws

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written by batsman, December 26, 2009 13:55:49
Those who suck up to Singapore and the wealth and comfort it offers to cronies will ultimately suck up to UMNO and all the wealth and comfort UMNO offers to cronies. This is a given.

They have no concern about detention without trial, no concern for democracy, no concern for tainted judiciary and MACC and no concern for abuse of power, no concern for policemen sleeping with gangsters. All they are concern about is how much wealth and comfort they can get form the UMNO govt.

It is exactly the same phenomenon as PAP cronies being fat, comfortable and happy with PAP govt.

This just means the slime balls will slink back to UMNO sooner or later. This is a guarantee, not a maybe.
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written by Aria, December 26, 2009 13:44:51
If Mahathir had the brains of president Lee of Singapore, Malaysia would have been Asia's super power. Instead Malaysia is being wasting away by the corrupt UMNOputras. Hopefully there will be enough citizens of Malaysia that will have the brains to vote for opposition in GE13.
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written by MAGELLAN, December 26, 2009 13:38:24
Just nosey is right, Singapore is much better off in many ways. There is hardly any corruption there, so there is no need for an opposition. What cronyism in Singapore??? Never heard of any. Over there u are allowed freedom of religion.

The only setback for me with Singapore is that I sometimes sense a feeling of bigotry amongst the local chinese. I used to work for a multinational in Singapore and I must say the local chinese are afraid of the other races or other nationals coming in to compete with them. I think this is the same in Australia too. Only natural that the locals feel afraid of competition as their rice bowl may be affected. But mind you, not all Singaporean Chinese are like that, some are wonderful people, eg. my ex-boss, he gave me plenty of opportunities for carrier advancements, even promoted me over many more higher qualified Singaporeans.

Other than that, Singapore is a much better country to live in. Education is the best in the region. Not to mention that NUS and NTU is in the top 20 uni's in the world as compared to UM or even USM, which are ranked 180 to 240 in the world. So who is a better educator???? Who is more democratic? Who is more advanced? Who is less corrupt? Which economy in the world is more stable??? UMNO or PAP??? You decide! For me it is definitely Singapore....and by a mile too!

If Malaysia would allow another race to run it, it may give Singapore a run for its money. Until then nothing much will change.
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written by Jit Dharma, December 26, 2009 13:32:11
Why should you question...? That is the hammer that the PAP uses to flatten anyone who has the temerity to dare to speak out. I should say the hammer Lee K.Y. uses. While the sun shines and things are
running and there is thosai and kuey tiao to eat, people here don't mind feeding the BN monsters
ferocious appetite for any and everything. People become willing collaborators with the ruling
clique despite of it's abysmal human rights record. Face it friend, Singapore too has an abysmal
human rights record, but the masses have been placated and intimidated into silence. The question
isn't why should you but can you if you choose to without being crushed by the full weight of the
security apparatus. Or the kangaroo courts that award outrageous sums of money to the dictator
Lee whenever he feels that his "honour' has been questioned. It breeds a citizenry with questionable
character. The kind that turns it's cowardly back on the unpleasant ugliness that lies behind
the idea of development. Following the dictum that absolute power corrupts absolutely , I'd
say the PAP is absolutely corrupted. The chauvinists don't like to hear this, but who gives a rats
ass what they like.
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written by darahkumelayu, December 26, 2009 12:46:09
Haiya, any blindmen also know which is BEST between Malaysia & Singapore. Where on this blue earth our 'stupid' Singaporean can buy raw water at 0.03sen and sell it back for $50.00 per litre??? for 99 years???? Of course the biggest portion goes to Ketusultanan Melayu + UMNO and their rakyat still sembah those HOlousY people!! We can strife & defend for anything our trusted Goverment did, Temasek loss of SD99B is nothing, we know we can get more in near future!! In Malaysia, most of those missing mega project Ringgit did land in Singapore and we share the deposit earning.
Actually after years of separation, both side realise which part going in the right direction. By now the Penangites & Malaccan should realise how stupid they are when in fact they should join us by then to stardom. Maybe we should OPEN the door to our abandon brothers & sisters of Pulau Pinang & Melaka to have a referendum to join us. Our dearest friend - Mr David Marshall will be smiling in his grave since he saw the Malays stupidity lead by the 1957 old junk PM of Malaysia, his glory is in ALL horse race club!!
Allo Malaysian no jealous-jealouslah, we the rakyat always care for each other. we open our arm to welcome you (we open our legs if you're man!). Come, come, leave those crazy people so that they can fight among themselves! We still buy (they sell) sand from Malaysia for us to extend our territory. Come, come!
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written by SeriousLy, December 26, 2009 12:35:54
Sorry but ahhh..another Harakah Daily...
Hasan Ali, jangan terima memorandum itu | Print | E-mail
http://bongkarsauh.b******t.com/

Satu memorandum mendesak PAS Selangor keluar daripada Pakatan Rakyat akan diserahkan dan bakal diterima oleh Pesuruhjaya PAS Selangor, Datuk Dr Hasan Ali.


I suggest he terima then tear it.....without reading it!
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written by penangboi, December 26, 2009 12:31:28
Hey Bro JustNosey

What you've said is exactly my feelings. So now you understand how frustrated I feel when someone wrote that Singapore is worse off than Malaysia.

Given half of what Singaporeans have I'd be smilng from ear to ear.

I repeat what I said earlier: Happiness is the feeling of contentment. But in BolehLand we haven't even seen the whole of the 'c' yet in the word let alone knowing what it means.
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written by Zym Zym, December 26, 2009 12:29:01
In Malaysia, we rewrite the classic story of Ali Baba and the 40 thieves to suit the modern context. Two jet engines missing, one brigadier-general and 40 personnel get the boot! Aren't we all are so proud being a Malaysian? Sandiwara after another. Malaysia Boleh!
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written by Msian Idol3, December 26, 2009 12:15:39
Well, well -- my take is this. I don't care how they talk but please walk the TALK. In Msia we get BULLSHITs & more & more. Where's the amanah,cekap...... We even get royalties to bully us, sanctioned by the govt. I would like to know when all such bullying & bullshits that's getting bigger & smellier going to be less, not stopped. Be much less. I have not lived in S'pore or work there but I have spend a large part of my career working overseas and have met many S'poreans that have migrated. They leave S'pore because they can afford to seek greener pasture of a more relaxed life. How many S'poreans really need to work their butts off after migration, virtually close to zero. Can most Msians immigrants afford to work less as migrants in their host country -- no way man. If our ministers were to be half as focus & loyal to the country, we would have plenty of resources to move the country many notches up in our quality of living. As it is now, every week we have a major scandal and even the mainstream media dare not report until its bocor at the blogging level. So, not that difficult to judge where I want my country Msia to head for, Zimbawe -- no way.
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written by hellosunshine, December 26, 2009 12:14:57
'They bring monkeys who are not educated, who speak senselessly into the scene. Can I trust such people with my family and country's future?'
JustNosey, damn true. Unfortunately, this is exactly what's happening in Malaysia, except, alot of poorly educated people supported them based on ketuanan race and religion. And why are these people poorly educated? That's the great masterpiece of UMNO and BN.
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written by singhkris, December 26, 2009 11:40:32
If you have stayed in Singapore, you will agree with the writer. He represents the silent majority who are happy with the PAP government. Elections are fairer than here in Malaysia and they can get rid of the PAP at the ballot box at any time. Never mind that the media is controlled by the PAP but Singaporeans do not depend on the media to make up their minds.
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written by batsman, December 26, 2009 11:37:30
It is only because Malaysians fight more strenuously for democracy compared to ultimate kiasu Singaporeans that Malaysia is better off than Singapore on the Zimbabwe scale. There is no other reason.
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written by biggun129, December 26, 2009 11:36:45
Yes, PAP cronies talk exactly like UMNO cronies, we dont care both talk alike, but problems is why can we have the same kind of lifestyle?
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written by batsman, December 26, 2009 11:27:01
UMNO cronies also have it very good. they can even send their children overseas for studies. so why should they bother if the police are detaining people under the ISA? Why should they bother if an IGP beats up people black and blue? Why should they bother about anything that goes wrong since they are so, so, so comfortable??
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written by batsman, December 26, 2009 11:24:08
Have you guys noticed that PAP cronies talk exactly like UMNO cronies???

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