When you pick a fight (UPDATED with Chinese translation)


Let me put it this way. When you poke the bear in the eye the bear would definitely whack you back. And when you poke the Malays regarding the issue of the 3Rs, the Malays would also whack you back. And if you are too dumb to understand this then you deserve to get whacked because you have intentionally poked the Malays in the eye knowing what is going to happen.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

What a brilliant and excellent idea, which really makes sense no matter whichever way RPK wants to put it. Housing & maintaining 9 royal and 4 governor households is the greatest burden on earth for Malaysian. That amount of money by billions can be wisely spent on new universities, hospitals, welfare homes, rural development, subsidising fishermen and farmers activities, eradicating poverty, etc., which would eventually benefit the rakyat.

Larry Jay M. : [email protected]

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It costs more than RM160 million a year to maintain the British Monarchy and this amount is expected to rise to RM190 million over the next couple of years. But then I suppose we would argue that Britain could afford it while a third-world country like Malaysia can ill-afford that amount.

‘Larry Jay M.’, who posted a comment in Malaysia Today yesterday, said that the cost to maintain the Malaysian Monarchy runs into billions of Ringgit. I take it that ‘billions’ means more than one. So how many billions of Ringgit is it? Two? Three? More than three?

When you quote figures you need to be specific plus you need to quote the source of these figures. Are these figures based on what was revealed in the Malaysian Parliament (like in the UK report below) because the budget needs to be approved by Parliament and even the opposition Members of Parliament would have details of what was spent.

Today, I had to delete at least four anti-Islam comments by ‘Larry Jay M’. These comments were downright nasty and if I had allowed them then I would have been accused of intentionally trying to pit the Muslims against the non-Muslims. Hence, so as to not fan the Muslim versus non-Muslim animosity, I just had to delete those comments even though I face the risk of being accused of not respecting freedom of speech.

To be honest, I have had to delete more than half the comments since yesterday mainly because they would definitely trigger anger — and with today’s announcement by the Malaysian government that more than 6,600 websites have been blocked since 2008, I would risk the same fate for Malaysia Today if I allow these anti-Islam comments to be posted.

I sometimes wonder whether ‘Larry Jay M.’ and those many others whose comments I have had to delete are actually agent provocateurs whose job is to create friction between the Muslims and those from the other religions. I suspect these people are paid cyber-troopers cum agent provocateurs.

I have written time and again, plus lectured the same thing in Cambridge, that Umno has a ‘secret weapon’. And that secret weapon is the Three-Rs — race, religion and royalty. Bahasa Malaysia, of course, is also in that list of 3Rs and would come under race.

If you want to rub the Malays the wrong way all you need to do it to raise one of these three issues (or all the three issues). You would certainly be adding fuel to the fire that is already raging in Malaysia even as you read this.

Now, raising these issues in the context of discussing them to find some sort of resolution is one thing. But raising them against the backdrop of mocking the Malays and/or Islam is another thing altogether. And the Malays take mocking as a challenge (cabaran) and if you know the Malays and have lived amongst them then you will know they melenting (jump up like a scalded cat) when you cabar them.

The normal ‘defense’ that these people use is: why are the Malays so sensitive? Why are the Malays so intolerant of freedom of opinion? Why can’t the Malays take criticism?

I think rather than pose all these questions to the Malays maybe you should instead ask yourself what is the purpose of you raising something so sensitive when you know exactly how the Malays are going to respond to that?

It is not that you do not know. You do know. You know exactly how the Malays are going to react because you have yourself witnessed how they react. Yet you purposely raise these issues knowing what is going to happen.

That is what we would call provocation. You poke the bear in the eye knowing what the bear would do. Then you accuse the bear of being too sensitive, of not respecting freedom of opinion, of not being open to criticism, and whatnot.

Let me put it this way. When you poke the bear in the eye the bear would definitely whack you back. And when you poke the Malays regarding the issue of the 3Rs, the Malays would also whack you back. And if you are too dumb to understand this then you deserve to get whacked because you have intentionally poked the Malays in the eye knowing what is going to happen.

Have you read the history of Yap Ah Loy? Well, Yap Ah Loy went into partnership with Raja Abdullah, the brother of the then Sultan of Selangor, to mine tin in Ampang. The Sultan owned all the land in Selangor, which were rich in tin, but he did not have the labour to mine this tin.

Raja Abdullah then went into an ‘Ali Baba’ arrangement with Yap Ah Loy. Yap Ah Loy would bring the Chinese labourers from China to mine for tin in Ampang and he would share the profit with the Sultan.

The headquarters for this operation was around where the Masjid Jamek in Kuala Lumpur now sits. Yap Ah Loy then opened up that area and set up his businesses there — which included money-lending (ah long), opium dens and brothels. 

You see, Yap Ah Loy only brought in the men to work the tin mines. So the men ‘hungered’ for women and they certainly could not date the Malay women. So Yap Ah Loy set up brothels and brought in Chinese women from China to work in these brothels.

Hence, when that stupid Malay man said that the Malaysian Chinese are descendants of prostitutes, was he lying? In the context of the history of Kuala Lumpur he would, of course, not be lying. This is reported in the history books. However, we must look at this not in the context of historical fact but in the context of the reason why this matter has been raised.

Something may be true, but truth can also be insult, mocking, provocation, mala fide, cabaran, biadap, etc., depending on the manner and the reason you have raised it. Hence to say that Malaysian Chinese are descendants of prostitutes is not about the truth but about looking for a fight.

So, what is the moral of this story? Yes, you are right, the moral of this story is that the first ‘Ali Baba’ arrangement in Malaysia was between Yap Ah Loy and the Sultan of Selangor.

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London: Queen Elizabeth II cost British taxpayer nearly 1 million pounds more during her Diamond Jubilee year in 2012.

According to Buckingham Palace accounts released in London on Thursday, the Queen’s official expenditure increased by 900,000 pounds from 32.4 million pounds to 33.3 million pounds in 2012-13, compared to the previous 12 months.

The annual Royal Public Finances report also found that taxpayer funds used to pay for official air and rail travel at home and abroad for members of the royal family fell by 500,000 pounds from 5 million pounds in 2011-12 to 4.5 million pounds in 2012-13.

Royal staff costs rose from 17.5 pounds million to 18.3 pounds million in 2012-13, while the cost of maintaining royal buildings increased by 200,000 pounds to 9.1 million pounds.

“The royal household has continued to reduce its expenditure funded by the taxpayer in successive years since 2008-09, achieving a real-terms reduction of 24 per cent over the last five years,” said Sir Alan Reid, Keeper of the Privy Purse.

“A significant part of the increase to the Sovereign Grant in 2013-14, supplemented by further income generation, will be used to tackle a backlog in essential property maintenance at the working royal palaces,” he added.

The Queen’s official expenditure excludes the costs of police and army security and armed services ceremonies.

The grant paid to the British monarchy is calculated as 15 per cent of money paid by the Crown Estate to the government.

The estate, which includes property across the UK, increased its profits by 5 per cent to 252.6 million pounds in 2012-13.

Public money used to fund the royal family, known as the Sovereign Grant, is expected to rise to 36.1 million pounds in the current financial year and 38 million pounds in 2014-15.

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当你找架打时 

让我这种方式来讲,当你戳熊的眼睛熊肯定会反过来回击你。而当你3R来戳马来人时马来肯定会反过来回击你。而如果你愚蠢得连这一点也不明白的话,那么你真的是活该,因为你知道将要发生什么东西的情况下已经故意地戳了马来人的眼睛 

这真的是个极好的主意,无论RPK要怎样来美化它。9个皇室及4位州元首宫邸费用津贴都给了马来西亚大的负担。数十亿可以明智地花大学,医院,福利院,农村发展,补贴渔民和农民,消除贫困等这将最终让人民受益

Larry Jay M. [email protected]

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英国皇室每年的维持经费超过RM160万,并在接下来的几年中,这一数额预计将上升至RM190万。但我想,我们会争论英国是付得起的,而像马来西亚这样的第三世界国家难以负担这一数额。

Larry Jay M.昨日MT评论说,马来西亚皇室每年的维持经达到数十亿令吉(Billions所以请问到底是多少个‘十亿’令吉?两?三?超过三

当你引用数字你需要给出具体的答案,再加上给出这些数字的来源。这些数字是根据在马来西亚国会(如以上英文版的英国新闻报导)透露,因为预算需要由会批准,就连反对党国会议员也必须知道到底这些钱花在什么地方

今天,我不得不删除Larry Jay M 至少四个反伊斯兰言论。这些言论是彻头彻尾的惹人厌,如果我刊登这些言论的话,我会被指有意挑起穆斯林非穆斯林的敌意。因此,为了不要煽动穆斯林与非穆斯林起敌意,我不得不删除这些意见,即使我面临被指责不尊重言论自由的风险。

说句实话,从昨天起我不得不删除超过半数的留言,主要是因为们肯定会引发愤怒—而且,马来西亚政府今天宣布自2008年以来超过6,600个网站已被封锁。如果我允许这些反伊斯兰言论被张贴的话担心MT会面临同样的命运。

我有时怀疑Larry Jay M.和许多发表类似留言的人,他们实际身份是代理挑衅者;他们的工作是要引起穆斯林和其他宗教之间的摩擦。我怀疑这些人收了钱的网络打手兼代理挑衅。

我已经写了一次又一次,和不断地在剑桥给出同样的演讲,巫统有一个’秘密武器’。而这秘密武器是三R—种族race,宗教religion和皇室royalty。马来文当然也是3R中的其中一项它是被归类在种族race这个武器里

如果你想挑起马来人的火焰,你需要做的是提这三个题的其中一个(或全部三个)。你肯定会很成功地在这已肆虐马来西亚社会很久火焰上增加燃料。

现在,在想要找到某种决议为前提下提出这些问题是一嘲讽马来人和/或伊斯兰教为前提下提出这些问题完全是另一回事。而且马来人还视嘲讽为一个挑战(cabaran),如果你很了解马来人和曾和他们住在一起,那么你就会知道当你cabar他们他们是会melenting(像烫伤的猫跳起来)

这些人使用的‘防御’是:为什么是马来人如此敏感?为什么马来人这么不能接纳意见自由

什么马来人不能接受批评?

我认为与其你问马来人这些问题,为何你自己不问问自己当你知道马来人会如何回应是你还要提起这些敏感课题的目的是什么?

这并不是说你不知道知道。你确切地知道马来人什么反应,因为你有自己亲眼目睹他们的反应。然而,你知道将要发生什么事情的情况下你还是故意提出这些题。

是我们称之为挑衅。你知道当你去捅熊的眼睛熊会做什么东西。然后,你指责熊过于敏感,不尊重意见发表自由,不接受批评,和有的没的

让我这种方式来讲,当你戳熊的眼睛熊肯定会反过来回击你。而当你3R的来戳马来人时马来肯定会反过来回击你。而如果你愚蠢得连这一点也不明白的话,那么你真的是活该,因为你知道将要发生什么东西的情况下已经故意地戳了马来人的眼睛

你读过叶亚来的故事吗?嗯,叶亚来了与当时雪兰莪苏丹的弟弟拉惹阿都拉Raja Abdullah合伙在安邦开采锡。苏丹雪兰莪州所有土地拥有这些土地含有丰富的锡,但他没有足够的劳动力来进行开采。

惹阿都拉和叶亚来达成一个阿里巴巴’协议。叶亚来将从中国带来华裔劳工开采锡,苏丹则与他分享利润。

当时的‘公司’总部设在现今吉隆坡占米回教堂附近。叶亚来后来开发了该地区,并成立自己的业务其中包括放高利贷,鸦片烟馆和妓院。

叶亚来只带了男人在锡矿工作,所以这些的都相当的‘饥渴’,但他们当然不能马来妇女走在一起。因此,叶亚来设立妓院,并从中国带来了妇女在这些妓院工作。

因此,当那个愚蠢的马来男子说马来西亚华人是妓女的后代时,他在说谎?在吉隆坡的历史背景下,当然不是在说谎。这是在历史书上有提到的。然而,我们必须不是历史事实背景看待这件事而是要从这个人提出这事的背后原因看待这件事

有些事情可能都是真的,但这些事实也可以被用来进行侮辱,嘲弄,挑衅,cabaran biadap等,这全看你提出的方式和原因。因此,当一个人讲说马来西亚华人是妓女的后裔时他的目的不是讲真理,而是想找人打架。

所以,这个故事的寓意是什么?是的,你对了,这个故事的寓意是,马来西亚第一个阿里巴巴’协议是发生在叶亚来和雪兰莪苏丹之间。

 



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